As a Black Nationalist I believe that Reparations should be paid to the sons and daughters of Africa.

Slavery has left economic and social disparities between Blacks and Whites and the only solution to fixing these disparities is reparations. Many businesses that are around today (such as Chase Bank) benefited greatly off the slave trade and that wealth was passed from one generations to the next. Only a fool in denial would say the actions of whites in the past have no effect on the current conditions of Blacks today. Since slaves were not paid wealth was passed from one generations to the next and whites had a huge head start. In fact 80 percent of black kids begin their adult lives with no assets and the net worth for Whites 6 Times Higher Than Blacks.

Although I agree with you i think that calling it a 400 year holocaust is a bit innaccurate. There was no great burning or attempt to eliminate the black race.

having a black nationalist on this forum will be sooo fun.

You weren't a slave, why do you need reparations?

And the flood gates are open!

Blackliberator wrote:

As a Black Nationalist I believe that Reparations should be paid to the sons and daughters of Africa. Slavery has left economic and social disparities between Blacks and Whites and the only solution to fixing these disparities is reparations. Many businesses that are around today (such as Chase Bank) benefited greatly off the slave trade and that wealth was passed from one generations to the next. Only a fool in denial would say the actions of whites in the past have no effect on the current conditions of Blacks today. Since slaves were not paid wealth was passed from one generations to the next and whites had a huge head start. In fact 80 percent of black kids begin their adult lives with no assets and the net worth for Whites 6 Times Higher Than Blacks.

Respectfully, I strongly disagree.

And I'm pretty bored with native-born Americans who are whining about circumstances long before their time or mine. I remember when the first group of "boat-people" came over from Laos and other Southeastern Asian countries. In my hometown, Houston, they lived in the Allen Projects, sometimes 20+ people in a one-bedroom apartment, and I watched them picking up rags and trash with those pointed sticks on the Allen Parkway and Southwest Freeway.

Within a decade, their kids were winning the National Spelling Bee. They were newspaper publishers and restaurant and small-business owners (and the thug elements had also established themselves, of course). That's when I got bored with whining. In my lifetime, every American child has been offered an education, and since I was in high school, affirmative action saw to it that perceived grievances were beginning to be addressesd.

My family didn't own slaves, and I owe you nothing. Not a one of us was alive to experience slavery and its attendant horrors, and if you have been unable to make it here in the U.S., then look to yourself because you have a serious personal problem if you were born here and somehow can't when foreigners got off boats in our lifetimes and have.

Victimhood is just pathetic, IMO. Serves nobody; just makes you weak. Not one damned dime of my tax money for American citizens who think they somehow deserve "compensation" for what their dead ancestors may have experienced. The American Dream remains. It just takes work, not whining.

if property acquisition can be traced back to illegitimate means, is that property legitimate?

Blackliberator wrote:

As a Black Nationalist I believe that Reparations should be paid to the sons and daughters of Africa. Slavery has left economic and social disparities between Blacks and Whites and the only solution to fixing these disparities is reparations. Many businesses that are around today (such as Chase Bank) benefited greatly off the slave trade and that wealth was passed from one generations to the next. Only a fool in denial would say the actions of whites in the past have no effect on the current conditions of Blacks today. Since slaves were not paid wealth was passed from one generations to the next and whites had a huge head start. In fact 80 percent of black kids begin their adult lives with no assets and the net worth for Whites 6 Times Higher Than Blacks.

I'll be the first to admit that the way blacks have been (and in some places still are) treated has been pretty terrible.

But honestly its never going to get any better if you keep playing the victim card and don't do anything for yourselves to make your own lives better. Even if the government gave all African decent families $100,000 in reparations, would it resolve the issues that are still ongoing? I highly doubt it.

My parents were poor when I was growing up and they sure didn't pass any wealth down to me. I moved to Dallas with about $1000 and no job and am living relatively well these days. So while I agree that things have not been easy, its no excuse to hold your hand out and ask for money instead of going out and making a life for yourself. If you get it, so much the better, but I certainly wouldn't hold my breath - the Native Americans were treated much worse and they have received virtually nothing.

You want money from Chase Bank?

Really, really bad timing...

Blackliberator wrote:

As a Black Nationalist I believe that Reparations should be paid to the sons and daughters of Africa. Slavery has left economic and social disparities between Blacks and Whites and the only solution to fixing these disparities is reparations. Many businesses that are around today (such as Chase Bank) benefited greatly off the slave trade and that wealth was passed from one generations to the next. Only a fool in denial would say the actions of whites in the past have no effect on the current conditions of Blacks today. Since slaves were not paid wealth was passed from one generations to the next and whites had a huge head start. In fact 80 percent of black kids begin their adult lives with no assets and the net worth for Whites 6 Times Higher Than Blacks.

I understand where you are coming from. My question with the reparations movement has always been this: How can you say that for all the things that our people have had to endure and how systematic the level of injustice had been for so long, that "if you gimme some money" we're square? So slavery was cool, and forgiven for a few bucks? The history of this country is SO dark as it pertains to descendents of slaves. I'd hate the idea that the majority culture could say "Shut up about racism. You got paid."

Bro, if you spent more of your money in things that originate and terminate within the Black community (not saying you don't, i dunno) we would have more of our own stuff. Earning your own way: Priceless.

Judge Napolitano said that the reparations claim is about 400-years too late. Try buying lottery tickets instead.

Well we should probably pay the Native Americans first then eh?

Do you suppose Spain should pay-off the people of Central and South America?

Since slavery in the US began prior to the founding of the country, don't you think the UK needs to front some money too?

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You are being paid reparations in a way. You can get your college pretty much paid for just because you are black. So let's call it even.

I disagree, the Jew Holocaust lasted for ten years. The Holocaust for the Black man lasted for over 400 years. The Jews lost 6 million in their Holocaust but we lost over 600 million.


The Jews often talk about the death marches but what about the death marches in Africa ? When we were forced in mass to march hundreds of miles some of us dying in the heat of the sun and we moved from northern region to a coastal region.

The Jews have also been forcibly moved from their ghetto but these the sons and daughters of Africa are still in the ghettos of White America to this very day.





The Jews often talk about how the Germans build override side walks but Black people were not even allowed to walk on the side walk with the White Man. When we were walking on the side walk and a white man came along it was a law for us to moved out in the streets.

We Black people have not only suffered an Holocaust but we have payed one hell of a cost.

The Jews build their Holocaust memorial and it cost over millions of dollars. I think we Black people need an African Holocaust museum and WE SHOULD SET THEM UP ALL OVER AMERICA !

The Jews get 21 million a year just for operating expenses from the government of America. Their Holocaust took place in Germany thousands of miles from America. But no museum no memorial not 200 million not 21 million not even one thousand not even a dollar has been set aside so that we may set up a museum or memorial for all of our ancestors who suffered an untimely death.




The Jews often talk about how they were herded in boxcars well we were herded in slave ships. We lost 2 million in middle passage alone. During slavery white people played game where they would burn Blacks alive. They would run races to determine who old get the big toe, who would get the little toe and the top prize was the male organ. They did this for laughter......

I am deeply concerned with the struggles of Black America.


No one wants to pay us reparations to us and if they won’t do that why can’t the government at least a museum or memorial in honor of our holocaust ? The Jews receive 100 billion dollars in reparations and a holocaust was set up on this soil. But the catholic church, the Arabs, white people in general no one wants to pay reparations to the sons and daughters of Africa. What have we done to deserve this kind of mistreatment ? We are that same race that when you all beat us and rearrange our facial features and stomp us before the entire world because we have such kind and innocent hearts we just rise up and say


Well can't we all just get along ? [/youtube]

krissypie08 wrote:

You are being paid reparations in a way. You can get your college pretty much paid for just because you are black. So let's call it even.

This is false.

FACT: Affirmative action benefits a broad range of people and communities that continue to face discrimination in this country, including Latino, Native, Arab, Asian and African Americans. The primary beneficiaries, however, have been white women.

http://aapf.org/focus/episodes/oct30.php

Blackliberator wrote:

I disagree, the Jew Holocaust lasted for ten years. The Holocaust for the Black man lasted for over 400 years. The Jews lost 6 million in their Holocaust but we lost over 600 million.

I'm not going to respond to the rest because it starts off so bad. I think you need to look up what the Holocaust was because you are sadly mistaken if you think blacks in America have been under those conditions for 400 years.

I notice that the descendents of the black africans who rounded up the slaves before selling them on the white slave traders are conspicious by their abscence on your demand for reperations....

thundertaker wrote:

I notice that the descendents of the black africans who rounded up the slaves before selling them on the white slave traders are conspicious by their abscence on your demand for reperations....

Do you have a source for this ? Though so because that is a lie put out their by whites to make them feel better about their low down dirty ancestors.

The slave markets in Africa were in Fez and Triopoli which is located in Northern Africa or Arab Africa.


In 1720, King Agaja Trudo of Dahomey not only opposed the trade, but even went as far as to attack the forts that the European powers had constructed on the coast.

Other African leaders such as Donna Beatriz Kimpa Vita in Kongo and Abd al-Qadir, in what is now northern Senegal, also urged resistance against the forced export of Africans.

Queen Nzinga went as far as fighting Europeans when Europeans dare suggested she sell some of her citizens into slavery.



http://www.fiu.edu/~ogundira/Thornton_Early_Kongo_Portuguese_Relations .pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Nzinga

My ancestors were slaves and serfs 600 years ago. Gimme my money b*****s.

Yeah... that'll happen.

thundertaker wrote:

I notice that the descendents of the black africans who rounded up the slaves before selling them on the white slave traders are conspicious by their abscence on your demand for reperations....

Your from the U.K ? It goes so good down in Britain that you colonized certain section of Africa and build the wealth of your country.