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I notice that the descendents of the black africans who rounded up the slaves before selling them on the white slave traders are conspicious by their abscence on your demand for reperations....


Well, yes, there's this niggling detail...
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I notice that the descendents of the black africans who rounded up the slaves before selling them on the white slave traders are conspicious by their abscence on your demand for reperations....


Well, yes, there's this niggling detail...


I already debunked the whole Blacks sold other Blacks into slavery.
How ever even if it is true that Africans sold other Blacks into slavery the wealth that was acquired from it was stolen by the Europeans when they came in to colonize Africa.

So that is another reason why Europeans owe us reparations.

Can you all explain how giving back what you stole is a handout and not righteous justice ?

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I notice that the descendents of the black africans who rounded up the slaves before selling them on the white slave traders are conspicious by their abscence on your demand for reperations....


Well, yes, there's this niggling detail...


I already debunked the whole Blacks sold other Blacks into slavery.
How ever even if it is true that Africans sold other Blacks into slavery the wealth that was acquired from it was stolen by the Europeans when they came in to colonize Africa.

So that is another reason why Europeans owe us reparations.

Can you all explain how giving back what you stole is a handout and not righteous justice ?


I didn't steal anything. And you weren't stolen from--you weren't even born.

And if you're flattering yourself that you're successfully trolling, let me express my non-mod/regular PCF member opinion that you're probably not even putting forth a genuine agenda, just a troll.
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I didn't steal anything. And you weren't stolen from--you weren't even born.




1Your ancestors accumulated wealth from the labor of my forefathers.

2My ancestors were not payed.

3 This wealth was passed down in someway shape or form that has given you a head start in life.


4 My ancestors were not able to pass any wealth from one generation to the next.


5 You hold money that should have been passed down from one generation to the next in my family.

Do you now see how you have stolen from me ?
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And if you're flattering yourself that you're successfully trolling, let me express my non-mod/regular PCF member opinion that you're probably not even putting forth a genuine agenda, just a troll.


Yes anyone with an unorthodox opinion is a troll.

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As a Black Nationalist I believe that Reparations should be paid to the sons and daughters of Africa.

Slavery has left economic and social disparities between Blacks and Whites and the only solution to fixing these disparities is reparations. Many businesses that are around today (such as Chase Bank) benefited greatly off the slave trade and that wealth was passed from one generations to the next. Only a fool in denial would say the actions of whites in the past have no effect on the current conditions of Blacks today. Since slaves were not paid wealth was passed from one generations to the next and whites had a huge head start. In fact 80 percent of black kids begin their adult lives with no assets and the net worth for Whites 6 Times Higher Than Blacks.


BILL

FROM: The Midwestern States
TO: Every American Decended from Black Slaves
Regarding: Outstanding Debts for Services


Items:
__________

1. 150,000 dead kids @ 1,000,000 (10,000 in 1865 dollars + compound interest)
2. 300,000 crippled kids @ 500,000 (5,000 in 1865 dollars + compound interest)
3. 20,000 ruined home-steads @ 250,000 (2500 in 1865 dollars + compound interest)
4. 1,500,000 cases of severe emmotional trauma @ 100,000 (1000 in 1865 dollars + compound interes)

total: $455,000,000,000

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As a Black Nationalist I believe that Reparations should be paid to the sons and daughters of Africa.

Slavery has left economic and social disparities between Blacks and Whites and the only solution to fixing these disparities is reparations. Many businesses that are around today (such as Chase Bank) benefited greatly off the slave trade and that wealth was passed from one generations to the next. Only a fool in denial would say the actions of whites in the past have no effect on the current conditions of Blacks today. Since slaves were not paid wealth was passed from one generations to the next and whites had a huge head start. In fact 80 percent of black kids begin their adult lives with no assets and the net worth for Whites 6 Times Higher Than Blacks.


BILL

FROM: The Midwestern States
TO: Every American Decended from Black Slaves
Regarding: Outstanding Debts for Services


Items:
__________

1. 150,000 dead kids @ 1,000,000 (10,000 in 1865 dollars + compound interest)
2. 300,000 crippled kids @ 500,000 (5,000 in 1865 dollars + compound interest)
3. 20,000 ruined home-steads @ 250,000 (2500 in 1865 dollars + compound interest)
4. 1,500,000 cases of severe emmotional trauma @ 100,000 (1000 in 1865 dollars + compound interes)

total: $455,000,000,000


Yes and if that plan were to go in effect we would use that money to start a nation of our own.

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I didn't steal anything. And you weren't stolen from--you weren't even born.




1Your ancestors accumulated wealth from the labor of my forefathers.

My ancestors were in Italy. They accumulated nothing..

2My ancestors were not payed.

Neither were mine...

3 This wealth was passed down in someway shape or form that has given you a head start in life.

No..


4 My ancestors were not able to pass any wealth from one generation to the next.

Not my fault..


5 You hold money that should have been passed down from one generation to the next in my family.

No I don't...

Do you now see how you have stolen from me ?
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And if you're flattering yourself that you're successfully trolling, let me express my non-mod/regular PCF member opinion that you're probably not even putting forth a genuine agenda, just a troll.


Yes anyone with an unorthodox opinion is a troll.

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1Your ancestors accumulated wealth from the labor of my forefathers.

My ancestors were in Italy. They accumulated nothing..

2My ancestors were not payed.

Neither were mine...

3 This wealth was passed down in someway shape or form that has given you a head start in life.

No..


4 My ancestors were not able to pass any wealth from one generation to the next.

Not my fault..


5 You hold money that should have been passed down from one generation to the next in my family.

No I don't...



When I said you I was referring to White Americans in general.

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As a Black Nationalist I believe that Reparations should be paid to the sons and daughters of Africa.

Slavery has left economic and social disparities between Blacks and Whites and the only solution to fixing these disparities is reparations. Many businesses that are around today (such as Chase Bank) benefited greatly off the slave trade and that wealth was passed from one generations to the next. Only a fool in denial would say the actions of whites in the past have no effect on the current conditions of Blacks today. Since slaves were not paid wealth was passed from one generations to the next and whites had a huge head start. In fact 80 percent of black kids begin their adult lives with no assets and the net worth for Whites 6 Times Higher Than Blacks.


BILL

FROM: The Midwestern States
TO: Every American Decended from Black Slaves
Regarding: Outstanding Debts for Services


Items:
__________

1. 150,000 dead kids @ 1,000,000 (10,000 in 1865 dollars + compound interest)
2. 300,000 crippled kids @ 500,000 (5,000 in 1865 dollars + compound interest)
3. 20,000 ruined home-steads @ 250,000 (2500 in 1865 dollars + compound interest)
4. 1,500,000 cases of severe emmotional trauma @ 100,000 (1000 in 1865 dollars + compound interes)

total: $455,000,000,000


Yes and if that plan were to go in effect we would use that money to start a nation of our own.


you misread the bill. African-Americans owe the people of the Midwest 455,000,000,000 for services provided.

in case you forgot it was the blood of hundreds of thousands of German and Irish immigrants who never owned slaves nor benifited from slavery who freed your people.

any outstanding debt the house had with you was paid in full by the blood of my ancestors.

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When I said you I was referring to White Americans in general.


How does that work out when it comes time to pay taxes, which is where all this money will come from?

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Slavery has left economic and social disparities between Blacks and Whites and the only solution to fixing these disparities is reparations.


I'm sure whites who had nothing to do with slavery will be more than happy to give hard earned money to African Americans who aren't working or want to live off the system.
This is also a slap in the face to blacks who work hard and have pride in the fact that they made it.

Why not go after Spaniards and the Portuguese since they started the slave trade.


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1Your ancestors accumulated wealth from the labor of my forefathers.

My ancestors were in Italy. They accumulated nothing..

2My ancestors were not payed.

Neither were mine...

3 This wealth was passed down in someway shape or form that has given you a head start in life.

No..


4 My ancestors were not able to pass any wealth from one generation to the next.

Not my fault..


5 You hold money that should have been passed down from one generation to the next in my family.

No I don't...



When I said you I was referring to White Americans in general.


So if I 'generalize' about blacks and say 'you people' that will be OK with you? Wink

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When I said you I was referring to White Americans in general.


How does that work out when it comes time to pay taxes, which is where all this money will come from?



The money should come from the Catholic Church, The Arabs, The Jews and out of the tax dollars of White America.

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1Your ancestors accumulated wealth from the labor of my forefathers.

My ancestors were in Italy. They accumulated nothing..

2My ancestors were not payed.

Neither were mine...

3 This wealth was passed down in someway shape or form that has given you a head start in life.

No..


4 My ancestors were not able to pass any wealth from one generation to the next.

Not my fault..


5 You hold money that should have been passed down from one generation to the next in my family.

No I don't...



When I said you I was referring to White Americans in general.


Well, of course, you were. White Americans can always be very conveniently packaged into one stereotypical group. Some might even call this "racism."

Meanwhile, my great-grandparents got off the boat from County Cork probably quite a bit after your ancestors did. Laughing

So how about your taking responsibility for yourself and your own life rather than trying to extort money from innocent others? How about that?
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Well we should probably pay the Native Americans first then eh?

Do you suppose Spain should pay-off the people of Central and South America?

Since slavery in the US began prior to the founding of the country, don't you think the UK needs to front some money too?

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Don't forget the Dutch and the Africans who kidnapped and sold slaves to them. We should pay the Irish slaves who were sent to the caribbean. When does it end once you start it? Will it apply to Native Americans?

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When I said you I was referring to White Americans in general.


How does that work out when it comes time to pay taxes, which is where all this money will come from?



The money should come from the Catholic Church, The Arabs, The Jews and out of the tax dollars of White America.


The Jews were once slaves too. How is this going to work out LOL

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When I said you I was referring to White Americans in general.


How does that work out when it comes time to pay taxes, which is where all this money will come from?



The money should come from the Catholic Church, The Arabs, The Jews and out of the tax dollars of White America.


Everyone knows the Jews and the Arabs have all the money.

Go hit them up, leave me out of it... Cool

I'm done here. This is nothing more then a troll thread.

Nite.

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When I said you I was referring to White Americans in general.


How does that work out when it comes time to pay taxes, which is where all this money will come from?



The money should come from the Catholic Church, The Arabs, The Jews and out of the tax dollars of White America.


you sure the catholics owe you?

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The money should come from the Catholic Church, The Arabs, The Jews and out of the tax dollars of White America.


I'm "white america" and my family never owned any slaves. So I get to pay for something I was no part of? Sounds to me that you just want easy money, to be quite honest.

Handing out money isn't going to solve any problems nor does it make right any of the wrongs from the past.

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As a Black Nationalist I believe that Reparations should be paid to the sons and daughters of Africa.

Slavery has left economic and social disparities between Blacks and Whites and the only solution to fixing these disparities is reparations. Many businesses that are around today (such as Chase Bank) benefited greatly off the slave trade and that wealth was passed from one generations to the next. Only a fool in denial would say the actions of whites in the past have no effect on the current conditions of Blacks today. Since slaves were not paid wealth was passed from one generations to the next and whites had a huge head start. In fact 80 percent of black kids begin their adult lives with no assets and the net worth for Whites 6 Times Higher Than Blacks.


I'm white American and my wife is white Canadian. Historically, Canadians housed escaped slaves. Does this cancel everything out? Even though my family wasn't even in this country. Are we square?

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